Whatever Happened to “nunya”?

Americans forget their rights

What would say if the county asked you these questions about a private gathering of 15 or so people in your own home?

‘Do you have a regular meeting in your home?’
‘Do you say amen?’
‘Do you pray?’
‘Do you say praise the Lord?’

Every Tuesday night about 15 people drive to [pastor David Jones]’s Bonita home to eat dinner and discuss the Bible. They usually park on Jones’ property, he said, but sometimes that parking spills out into the cul-de-sac.

Last month, someone filed a complaint about the number of cars.

A county code enforcement officer visited the house and asked Jones’ wife about the weekly Bible studies.

That code enforcement officer asked the questions above, to which the pastor’s wife answered “yes.” First mistake.

In April, Jones received a written warning for “unlawful use of land” and was ordered to stop hosting his “religious assemblies.”

They’re trying to make the Jonses’ get a permit for a ‘church’—which won’t happen in a residential neighborhood.  But what if they were holding a weekly ACORN meeting?  or discussing string theory - in Mandarin?

“We want to make sure—whether they’re on a public road or a private road—that they’re parking safely; that we can get fire trucks in; that we can get police vehicles in,” [Chandra Wallar of the county’s land use and environment group] said.

Well, that’s fine.  That’s their job.  If there’s a complaint, go give out some tickets.  Suggest car pooling.  But the content of their discussions is strictly none of the county’s business.

Jones said a visitor to a neighbor’s house called the County after a Bible study member hit the visitor’s car while leaving. Shortly after, a county code enforcement officer gave him a citation that said he needed a permit to host the weekly Bible study meetings, he said.

Revenge by zoning board—not uncommon.  ...for Statists.

But it brings to light one of the biggest hazard areas of the Shadow Government of regulators, bureaucracies and agencies which pass regulations that carry the force of law with hardly any oversight by elected officials and damn near none by citizens who have to live with ‘em.  That’s our mistake—not taking time to keep an eye on these regulators or supporting the people/organizations who do.

I was under the impression that one is only legally required to answer questions posed by an actual police officer when he is investigating an actual crime.  And he must demonstrate to you, the citizen, that those questions are relative to the crime under investigation.  No fishing expeditions.  [this is where ya’ll PMs jump in and correct my naive assumptions][please]

Without that restriction, a “zoning enforcement officer” can—and often does—become a petty tyrant.

I look forward to Pacific Justice Institute being all over this one.

Claire, Ideologically Stubborn Heatist Ruralite Claire, Ideologically Stubborn Heatist Ruralite
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raz0r said:

Ignite innovation???

Nanc is on some good drugs tonight.

New phrase for tonight: Faux-life Democrat.  Any Democrat who claims to support the sanctity of life, but sold out for this obamanation bill.

AND SHUT UP NANC!!!  Enough with the made up stories.  And being a woman is a pre-existing medical condition???  Free sex changes for women are covered now?

in 'the fine print'.
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Spin said:

If you listen real close at the .17 sec. mark your my hear the offending, yet blazing, slur.

HT to Bruce @MassBackwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Thac_nooM&feature=player_embedded

in '"boo" is what ghosts say.....ghosts are "spooky"....'.
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Melissa in Texas.. watching and waiting said:

Nasty is up?
*spit*

in 'the fine print'.
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MikeG said:

Watching here to Raz0r.  Note how the dems would not agree to a roll call vote.  Fine, but they can’t hide in this day and age.  We will know the names of the treasonous bastards who vote for this POS. 

Pelosi is on now....ptui!

in 'the fine print'.
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Sven ~ Zeitgeist auf Colorado said:

Methinks that this “person” is the resurrected visage of the twiddle that once lurked in the sewers of the KisP institute....a vile gnome going by the ‘nome de plume’ of ToaD!

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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Melissa in Texas.. watching and waiting said:

nawf, FYI.. where I come from…
your initial statement would be considered at threat.
NO ONE threatens my friends and walks away unscathed.
Ready to tussle some more?

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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raz0r said:

This crap order would not survive a legal challenge.  A clear violation of separation of powers.  What has just happened is that Stupak and his crew have just exposed that there is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat.

Watching Boehner on the House floor now.  He’s pissed.

in 'the fine print'.
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logdog"complacencyphobe"smith said:

Now that ain’t no way to treat a lady. 

What would that little boy’s mama say if she saw what he was typing?

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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Melissa in Texas.. watching and waiting said:

might wanna watch it libtard…
the chain you are yanking might be attached to something much latger than you are expecting!
BTW…
us *wingnuts* know that only pussies post with bogus email addys

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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nawf said:

Sure is easy to get you morons all excited.  I look forward to laughing at your stupidity for a long time to come.

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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raz0r said:

Exactly apo.  Not like it’s trying to debate.  Like the typical leftard protester - all noise.

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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Sven ~ Zeitgeist auf Colorado said:

Foot stompin music will follow....with a ”liberal” application of Gene Pool bleach.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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Melissa in Texas.. watching and waiting said:

Waaaahaaaaahaaaaa!
Castle doctrine, baby, castle doctrine ;)

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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Spin said:

Wow, haven’t seen an ass-whippin’ like that for a while. And you only needed your fingers. Of course one may have been your trigger finger.

Well done indeed!

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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apotheosis, unrepentant milkaholic said:

Well, your prerogative, of course, ma’am.

I’m just saying, if you feed strays they tend to follow you home.

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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Melissa in Texas.. watching and waiting said:

Indeed, mech. Those most affected though, will be the unborn.
This is a sad day for this country.

in 'the fine print'.
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Melissa in Texas.. watching and waiting said:

but apooooooo…
I like squashing bugs…
I even have my boots on to reach into the corners!
:D

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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MitchM said:

Lissa, ...and those who voted for it will be affected too, they are lost sheep more than likely. Your heart must surely be hardened to vote for this.

in 'the fine print'.
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apotheosis, unrepentant milkaholic said:

You’re talking to a troll who callis people “coward” from behind an anonymizer proxy.

I assure you, it’s really not worth the effort.

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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Sven ~ Zeitgeist auf Colorado said:

Hey mech...long time no see

in 'holey Chiwawa!'.
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