Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think he actually promised to attack us, in so many words...only that iran is going to “shock the west” or something.
My guess, underground nuke test.
I got into a conversation with people who know how to protect electronics recently. At the very least keep a quality surge protector on your system. If you are on the fringe, that can help.
As I get some more info, I’ll pass it along. Think fiber KVM and filtered power.
Hey, isn’t the IRS completely dependent on computers now?
cook that f*cker off, imadinnerjacket.
Keep an eye open for news about strange ships off the coasts, most likely the Atlantic or Gulf.
They have enough range in their rockets to reach a big chunk of the US if that is their plan.
Gas
Cash
Gold
AK-47
M1911
LOTS of Ammo
Tactical fighting knife
Water purification tablets
Canned food and MREs
Ham Radio w/ multi-band DX Antenna (grounded for EMP protection)
Transistor Radio
First aid kit
Flares
Matches & lighters
Firewood
Scotch
Cigars
Bible
...ALL SET!!!
Am I missing anything???
Am I missing anything???
comic relief sidekick.
^ That’s what scares me about this shit....what would I do without YOU ALL??????????????????????????????????????????
Stilton, no fair...I can’t actually laugh right now or I’ll bust stitches!
I don’t see iodine tablets on that list. THINK ABOUT YOUR THYROID, MAN!
I don’t think Teh One has the balls for it, Stilton.
Israel, however..... Especially in the case of a nuke test as Apotheosis mentioned
apotheosis - Believe it or not, I do in fact have a bottle of those but I bought them soon after 9-11. Do they have a shelf life???
Like I don’t already have enuff to worry about what with Toyotas zooming at me alla time…
^ STOP MAKING ME LAFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you think *I* feel...I’m surrounded by Priuses and they haven’t even started on them yet!
^ hakuna matatas, JR’s pretty anal about that. I shop at Costco........
Actually I dunno if iodine tabs have a shelf life. I know the liquid stuff seems to last forever. My mom had a big bottle of it she used to squirt every cut and scrape with, and I’m pretty sure some distant relative first picked it up off the ground at Gettysburg.
So, tabs are probably even more stable. And hey, if the alternative is a thyroid full of strontium-90, might as well go with the tablets.
Last time I was in Sam’s Club, there was a Guardsman in fatigues pushing a large cart filled with non-perishables and canned foods. Does he know something I don’t???
RIM-161 SM-3
Ship-launched, low-orbit anti-satellite.
Two days.
Does he know something I don’t???
...MREs taste like a hobo’s ass.
JR’s pretty anal about that (toilet paper)
Isn’t that a given? What are you actually going to do with all those rolls, hmmm? Build a bottle rocket super launcher?
Look up Faraday cage. If you’re handy or know somebody who is, stash a spare computer and electronics in one. Radio, spare cell phone, walkie talkies, cb, shortwave, ham radio, NOAA weather radio.
Take an old microwave oven that closes tightly and cut the power cord at the case to make a small faraday cage.
If you’re fairly electronically adept, you can set up your system in a shielded manner that should survive a pulse. But that presumes the web will still be up (eventually it will so be ready to get back online).
Have some means to generate some power (led lights are amazing for using little power for the light they produce), to pump water and fuel when there’s little electricity available. Keep an inverter in your cage to use if your auto still works. Older cars should be easier to bring back, some new ones might be better protected than we think--no one really knows.
Oh and look into HAM radio and the packet system, it’s like texting and there is a network of amateur radio operators that will be keeping things going when everything else is slag.
Just unplug electrical stuff you’re not actually using at the moment. Will probably be safe. Also disconnect cable TV leads—basically, anything connected to any kind of wire. A lot of EMP damage travels along wires. Unless you’re right up under the EMP. Then Missy’s braces glow like St Elmo’s Fire.
Ahmawhatis has a big mouth. I doubt he can make a nuke small enough for his little rocket’s payload and I doubt his guidance sytems are up to the mission. He could get lucky, and if he does, he’ll be annhilated. Our stuff is EMP hardened.
All the same, I have a list of stuff similar to MoFiZiX, plus an initial one month water supply stored, less the HAM radio and cigars, both of which could be very useful.
Cheap add-on to first aid kit - a box of Kotex make very good bandages.
^ Well, Obama’s assured us that they’re only going nuclear for peaceful purposes so there’s nothing really to worry about.
I dunno, it just seems like that drum & fife painting woulda lost some punch if dude had a maxipad wrapped around his head.
There’s no reason you can’t have a classy armageddon.
DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO LOL WITH YOUR MOUTH CLOSED??????????????????
Now, I’m confused...are we supposed to stay free or Stayfree?
Will 40-50 inches of snow protect me from the EMP? (about 40 inches of snow from this weekend, melted down an inch or two, plus 1-2 feet of snow Tuesday night into Wednesday Morning. I’ll be lucky if I have electricity on the 11th, EMP or no....
Now, I’m confused...are we supposed to stay free or Stayfree?
“Stayfree or DIE.” - New Hampshire, the PMS state
Do you know when the terrorists win?
When we get all panicky over cryptic and empty threats. It means they’re getting into our minds.
Fuck them. On Feb. 11, I’ll wake up, check the snow fall, and make breakfast. I won’t check the news. I won’t worry about what Mahmoud is up to. “Shock the west” will probably turn out to be archaeological evidence of electricity in ancient Persia, or somesuch.
p.s. I’m pretty well prepared for SHTF/TEOTWAWKI scenarios anyways. It never hurts to be prepared. Still, it’s much more likely to be Obama’s amateurish economic meddling that brings down the nation than some foreign threat.
My plan is to construct a fighting hole with sandbags on top of a CosCo and with a huge amount of ammo I can has my own huge survival kit right under the roof! Die Free or Fill in the Blanks!!
Topping off my tank today :)
Looking at the non-nuke options, Victor Davis Hanson is suggesting that Dinnerjacket might be referring to a Tiannenmen-style crackdown on the opposition and protestors. The opposition has been painted as being under the control of the West (and the evil Jooooos) so hammering them could be considered a “shock” to the West.
If he’s right, there’s gonna be a lot of blood on the streets on Thursday. Iranians are not armed for self-defence the way Americans are - but there’s still a lot more of them than there are of the goons, and a lot of the goons have turned to the opposition side.
Interesting times. Khameni and Ahmageddon doing a Mussolini-style exit at a corner gas station?.....
My Costco and Sportsman’s Warehouse are next door to each other and Sam’s across the street. Those are just a couple of blocks from me so with a couple of friends we can follow Col. Jerry’s example.
Then watch for the silly libs trying to tie an iPad around their headwounds.
Then watch for the silly libs trying to tie an iPad around their headwounds.
Mech, you and apo cracked me up.
Stilton! STAYFREEEEEEE!
I work in IT. Pop the cork on that baby. I can use the downtime.
It’s not easier to get a good guy with good shooting skills and a good rifle, to plant three or four silver bullets in this ahmadwtf’s head?
Explode like a ripe watermellon ...
Sorry, watching too much Chuck Norris movies.
Aside from being totaly unprepared and most likely starving to death or being killed by a looter, an EMP attack would possibly be a good thing for this country.
People would be forced to do something other than watch TV or play WoW.
They’d be faced with the reality of having to do *real* work. Millions would starve to death for lack of skill, or out of poor location (my issue. we are nowhere near any spot where one could even begin to survive).
But communities would be forced to form. Liberals who try to push their global warming/eco-nazi/shriek-of-the-day agenda would be ousted and or killed by groups who have the brains to recognize that the country would be having bigger issues that saving a bird or bug.
I’d like to say with confidence that I’m willing to die for my country, and that if that situation is what it takes to bring America to stand on its own again and to throw off the chains of the government, then so be it.
Unfortunately, I don’t know that I’m that strong internally. :(
Here are some links for 411 on EMP.
One Second After.com - What Is EMP - Preparation
The Effects of Nuclear Waepons
From the second link -
“In testimony before the United States Congress House Armed Services Committee on October 7, 1999, the eminent physicist Dr. Lowell Wood, in talking about Starfish Prime and the related EMP-producing nuclear tests in 1962, stated,
“Most fortunately, these tests took place over Johnston Island in the mid-Pacific rather than the Nevada Test Site, or electromagnetic pulse would still be indelibly imprinted in the minds of the citizenry of the western U.S., as well as in the history books.
As it was, significant damage was done to both civilian and military electrical systems throughout the Hawaiian Islands, over 800 miles away from ground zero. The origin and nature of this damage was successfully obscured at the time—aided by its mysterious character and the essentially incredible truth.” ”
One rather small nuke detonated high enough in space, say 300 miles or so, over the United States is enough put this country in an advanced state of FUBAR.
THIS should have been with the first link.
Here’s a little something that EMP can do for those of you who fly…
“Commercial airliners today are all computer driven. In fact, from lift off to landing, a pilot no longer even needs to be in the cockpit, a computer can do all of it if need be.
It is estimated that at any given moment during regular business hours, somewhere between three to four thousand commercial airliners are crisscrossing the skies.
All of them would be doomed, the pilots sitting impotent, staring at blank computer screens, pulling on controls that no longer respond as the plane finally noses over and heads in.
Somewhere between 250,000 to 500,000 people will die in the first few minutes. . .more than all our battle casualties across four years of World War II”
Happy trails…
Forger: don’t forget how many cars these days are using computers to control ignition and such.
And Trains.
And Metros.
and water treatment plants
traffic control
Fortunately, as long as they aren’t out for recess, most prisons have electronics controlling the locks on the doors. So one can hope they’d end up caged.
Yeah, but I ain’t gonna be in a car going 600 MPH at 37K feet when the lights go out. The highest I get off the ground these days is in the seat of my bus, and it’s so old there’s no electronics in the drive train to fry.
Most cars on the road today still operate with a boosted hydraulic braking system, so while you’ll have to push the pedal harder, you can still come to a controlled stop after the car’s brain is fried.
Trains and 18-Wheelers have air brake systems with air stored in pressurized containers that will allow a controlled stop. And should the air run out, the spring brakes will activate, stopping the rig automatically.
Traffic control will pretty much be a non-issue as the streets will be instantly jammed with dead cars and trucks. As it said at one of the above links, everything but an antique, pre-electronic ride is doomed.
Waste treatment and water pumping stations will have back up generators, but if they are wired into the grid, those will be useless as well. Same for the backups in hospitals, the places that produce the meds some of us take for hi-blood pressure or diabetes, food storage and distribution facilities, etc, ad scaryum…
Read the first and especially the fourth links I posted for a plain English chill up your spine about how UNREADY we are for something like this and how so simple it would be to do. The second and third links are more technical.
In there somewhere it said that it would cost over a half a trillion dollars to harden the national grid against EMP attack. Any idea how many people it would take to do this??
Didn’t the Gov’t. just piss away that amount of money with nothing to show for it??
Just make sure you don’t drive in front of any Toyotas :D
Unfortunately, we are utterly unprepared for a LOT of stuff that the government likes to not talk about. They prefer to keep the masses distracted with air travel and belligerent knuckle dragging TSA agents.
Chemical, and especially biological, attacks are virtually unspoken of, because the truth is that the government can’t do a damn thing about it (and the assholes running the country don’t *want* to. It’s a safe bet that there are a network of sheltered places for the lunatics at the top to run and hide in the event of any sort of major attack.)
Just read the first link. That’s an eye opener for sure.
Odd as it sounds, it might be worth it to invest in some copper (as in on-hand) and the equipment needed to draw it into wire. Generators can be rewired (if they are fried) and make-shift methods of turning them can be constructed. Would it create a lot of power? who knows, but while things will be really bad, I think there is enough non-electrical equipment available that some people will be able to start producing generators that aren’t fried.
Given, if an EMP flat-lines all magnets, then there’s no hope.
From the sounds of it we better pack up and head for camp.
Is it beyond potential that the total loss of political power that would occur with an event such as this would drive the Obamination and the rest of the monkeys in congress to make sure that the US is doing everything possible to defend against such an attack?
Dammit, JonB, that is one hell of a noodle bender....
Is it physically possible to re-enforce a lefty skull enough to withstand the explosive pressure sure to be generated by coming to grips with a plan that would be so positive for the United States and advances their own agenda at the same time??
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