Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother’s funeral was held there in May that year.
The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.
Hasan’s eyes “lit up” when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki’s teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday’s horrific shooting spree.
As investigators look at Hasan’s motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California.Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists…
PatR. in comments
This lady came all the way from Seattle for the Tea Party Thursday and was still here to answer the call for today’s reprise.
ThomasM
A woman in South Korea who had tried to pass the written exam for her driver’s licence on 949 occasions has passed on her 950th attempt…
The Headline of the Day, from the BBC:
Shooting Raises Fears For Muslims In US Army
Really? Right now the body count stands at:
Non-Muslims 13
Muslims 0
---Mark Steyn
After every terrorist attack people lament that no one “connected the dots”. Well, “connecting the dots” is irrelevant if you are unwilling to ever step back and look at the picture that they draw.
---DrewM
John Limbert will be the senior Iran official at the State Department, replacing Dennis Ross who has moved to the National Security Council (and who has not been heard of publicly since). Should America be concerned? Yes. Limbert is not a neutral arbiter; he serves on the advisory board of the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), widely considered to be the de facto lobby for the Iranian regime in America.
What is the National Iranian American Council? The Council serves as the blocking back for the Iranian regime in America, opposes sanctions on Iran, soft-peddles any controversial events in Iran, and counsels “patience” regarding Iran’s stance towards its nuclear program; the NIAC has been at the forefront of lobbying against continued Congressional funding of the Voice of America Persia service; Radio Farad; and grants for Iranian civil society; the NIAC adamantly opposes any military attacks on Iran; and to top it off, the NIAC has reportedly received funding from anti-Israel advocate George Soros who, at the very least, was an honored guest and speaker at one its symposiums (he called for a more equitable Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and called for America to renounce regime change as a goal).
[worse to follow]
How do these seditionists even get security clearances to visit the building?
No, not Him ... the Hitler one:
Former President George W. Bush and his wife, Laura, visited wounded soldiers and their families near the site of the worst mass shooting on an Army post in the United States.
The Bushes made their private visit to Fort Hood’s Darnall Army Medical Center on Friday night. Bush spokesman David Sherzer said in an e-mail that the couple thanked Fort Hood’s military leaders and hospital staff for the “amazing care they are providing.” ...
Friday, November 06, 2009
Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.
In response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”
Key excerpts from the JCT letter appear below:
“H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” [page 1]
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“If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]
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“Criminal penalties
Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:
• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
• Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.” [page 3]
When confronted with this same issue during its consideration of a similar individual mandate tax, the Senate Finance Committee worked on a bipartisan basis to include language in its bill that shielded Americans from civil and criminal penalties. The Pelosi bill, however, contains no similar language protecting American citizens from civil and criminal tax penalties that could include a $250,000 fine and five years in jail.
“The Senate Finance Committee had the good sense to eliminate the extreme penalty of incarceration. Speaker Pelosi’s decision to leave in the jail time provision is a threat to every family who cannot afford the $15,000 premium her plan creates. Fortunately, Republicans have an alternative that will lower health insurance costs without raising taxes or cutting Medicare,” said Camp.
According to the Congressional Budget Office the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker’s bill would cost $15,000 in 2016.
......I place you and Hanas* [*Nidal Malik Hasan...Larry the grammar Nazi can’t spell...] in the same category.......calling a woman a foul name on a website was a great start.....
--- Larry the Lympian
Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler.
--- Robert Gibbs 11.06.09
The 13 people killed when an Army psychiatrist allegedly opened fire on fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas, included a pregnant woman who was preparing to return home, a man who quit a furniture company job to join the military about a year ago, a newlywed who had served in Iraq and a woman who had vowed to take on Osama bin Laden after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Here is a look at some of the victims…
shocked… again
Investigators are searching the New Orleans offices of the activist group ACORN in connection with embezzlement and tax fraud allegations. ...the allegations of embezzlement were made last year by ACORN board members who were fired after they asked to look at the group’s books.
Still willing to fund these ACORNholes, Congress?
11/06 at 02:49 PM •
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President Barack Obama said Friday the entire nation is grieving for those slain at Fort Hood, and he urged people not to jump to conclusions while law enforcement officers investigate the shootings…
Today, Americans in uniform, unarmed and preparing for DOD ordered deployments were murdered on American soil where they thought they were safe. Their killer was a US Army doctor of Psychiatry and a Major in rank. The Doctor had received orders to Iraq. He was apparently a recent convert to the religion of Islam.
Most of us will recall that prior to D-day in the Iraq invasion, an American soldier threw hand grenades into a tent of officers and killed several of them. His religion was Muslim.
President Bush and President Obama have and continue to refer to Islam as a Religion of Peace.
Yet even the most casual observer of the differences between Islam and Christianity would not describe them as Peaceful. Past history is rife with examples of war between these religions(as would Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, and/or any local religion that was not Islam!
I ask you Americans, what does it take to convince you that Islam is at WAR(undeclared) with America and non-Islamic cultures? The “Death” of about 3000 innocent noncombatant humans in New York City on 11 September, 2001? The death of 241 humans(mostly US Marines) in Lebanon during president Reagan`s administration? The death of Americans in barracks in Saudi Arabia, The death of sailors on a US destroyer, USS Cole? The death of a US Marine Lt/Col by hanging(on duty w State Dept....), the death of American citizens on a cruise ship captured by Islamo-radicalists, the death of American citizens by sniper fire on the East Coast of the USA by Muslims, and, as an afterthought, the attempt on American deaths during the Clinton administration on the same buildings they destroyed by American airliner collisions, years later?
We are watching and experiencing a beginning of a wonderful response by “AMERICAN EXCEPTUALISM” as the result of the last presidential election and subsequent proposal/actions.
We the People, don`t like what our government is proposing. We are rolling up our sleeves and doing what is necessary to demonstrate that. It. is. working! Unlike a 30 or 60 minute TV program, it will not be so simply adjusted and/or resolved....
WE are on the right track, which is what our ancestors would agree. EXCEPT for ONE thing.
Like our delay in realizing what Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, until they demonstrated how late we were....had in mind for all civilization, we correctly responded and industrialized/mobilized and smothered them both with our *unknown to the world* capacities!
That capacity still exists! It runs in the veins of Americans---and is from our ancestors!
I do not agree that the Greatest Generation was identified by Mr. Brokow. The capacity is alive and still maintains and still stands superior to barbaric intentions!!!!!
KISP and our HEADMISTRESS and her husband JR are classic examples! Who can imagine them domesticated to a philosophy that they would never believe?
*I* perceive those of us on this wonderful Blog as really the true examples of citizens of the American Republic; historically past and historically present. We will endure and solve the mis-election of president Obama. We will make America strong again and announce to all planetary threats that their efforts, particularly those religious, shall not come to pass....
I have come to know, one way or another, all of you. It is this knowledge that provides me comfort, for SondraK`s commenters(...not to mention her own strong logic(s)...) is proof extraordinaire that “....we ain`t as stoopid as we look...”
I remain your baffled, yet happily pleased, obedient servant,
Colonel Jerry
“You’ve all been to gatherings where you’ve been told to bow your heads and have a moment of silence. Well, here’s your chance to fight back."…
In panick horrour of purfuing dogs; With many a deadly grunt and doleful fqueak.
So there you have it. disgruntling is hateful in the eyes of allah.
Have fun in Gehenna, Hasan.
Fact Avoidance Disorder
What if Thursday’s atrocious slaughter at Fort Hood only signals that the worst is yet to come? ...may momentarily remind us of a reality that most Americans can readily forget: soldiers and their families are living, and bending, under a harrowing and unrelenting stress that will not let up any time soon. And the U.S. military could well be reaching a breaking point as the president decides to send more troops into Afghanistan.
...That the two wars currently being waged are taking a psychological toll on soldiers is no surprise.
Right down the list of Teh Narrative from 1968. The only change has been in turning the soldiers from crazed “baby killers” into pathetic victims. More insulting in its infantilization of the very folks we count on to stand up and be sheepdogs.
The most egregious part is this clown’s failure to recognize that most of the tension comes from the Civilian Administration [Executive and Legislative alike] refusing to clarify a Plan for Victory. Dithering does not create confidence on our side—just for The Enemy.
(As a psychiatrist, Hasan may have been particularly vulnerable: there have been numerous accounts of chaplains suffering from depression and PTSD after counseling returning soldiers. Hearing their horror stories, sharing their pain, and being unable to help often pushed these men over the edge. The fact that they were supposed to be healers, that they had never seen combat themselves, made it much harder to ask for help.)
You buffoonish dullard. A professional - chaplain or psychiatrist - does not “share the pain” of their clients/patients. And a properly trained professional has many many ways to help. PTSD, simply put, is a natural response to too many things happening for the individual to process and put into perspective at the time. The trauma/shock gets encapsulated so that the individual can continue to function in the circumstances. The help comes in supporting the individual to recognize that the circumstances have changed and he now has time and space to process the events. It’s hard work, but it is do-able. I imagine it would be helpful to have someone who has already been successful in his own process, but it is not required. All that is required is a trained professional who can keep his own issues well out of the way.
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...In the midst of two wars, those living as military and military family experience a different—often, more distressing—everyday experience of “normal.” And forgetting that, either in understanding this singular case, or making a decision about more deployments, is dangerous at best, and morally bankrupt at worst.
...But the situation is bad, and getting much worse. From there, it isn’t much of a leap to argue that to further tax our military would do as much as anything to guarantee that the homegrown terror on display today could well repeat itself in the future.
This wasn’t “homegrown terror:” it was an act of war.
The goal is the same as the ‘68 meme—to make regular civilians afraid of not only any effort to defend this country but of those who do the heavy lifting in that effort, the soldiers. It was seditious bullshit then: it is seditious bullshit now.
11/06 at 09:41 AM •
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Oh before I go on, I’d like to shout out to my slammin’ supahdope peeps up in Camelot, word to ya grail, holmes.
Qaseem Ali Uqdah, who was a Marine for 21-years before becoming the Executive Director at American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council, now fears a “witch-hunt” like that which followed September 11, 2001.
Yeah, I still shudder when I recall those mobs of armed, angry WASPs pillaging Islamic neighborhoods, torches and nooses held aloft, lynching everyone in a keffiyeh. Right terrible, it was.
Nothing at all like the level-headed, brow-furrowed concern of Islam to the mere rumor of someone wiping their ass with a page of the Koran.
“you pay - we play”
Congressional Hispanics [Congressional Hispanic Caucus] have threatened to vote against the bill because of a last-minute threat from within the Democratic Caucus to bolster the House bill’s immigration restrictions to match those included in the Senate Finance bill.
...they’re also fighting President Barack Obama, the original sponsor of the language prohibiting illegal immigrants from accessing the public health insurance exchange.
Ok—so y’all [uds]. You want US citizens to pay for the health insurance of folks from citizens of other countries. Are you limiting that to citizens of Mexico? Want to include citizens of El Salvador? Honduras? Do those citizens of other countries even need to reside [*cough*illegally*cough*] in the US? Why?
What about those living in the US who are citizens of China? India? Waziristan? Alpha Centauri? How’re ya gonna differentiate under the law—a[n] Hispanic test?
rly?!?
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A police officer who intervened to stop a shooting spree at America’s biggest military base was hailed today a heroine as she received treatment for the wounds received in a shoot-out with the gunman.
Major Nidal Hasan, an army psychiatrist due to be posted to Afghanistan, shot dead 13 people and wounded 30 others after opening fire with two handguns at Fort Hood yesterday afternoon.
But the death toll from the rampage could have been far worse had it not been for the actions of Sergeant Kimberly Munley, a civilian police officer stationed at the base who was the first on the scene as Major Hasan picked off his victims....
I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow was around, and so I want to give a shout out to that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.
Well, except....
...Joe Medicine Crow didn’t win the Congressional Medal of Honor. He won the Presidential Medal of Freedom (given to him by Obama, no less) and the Congressional Gold Medal…
vamping to Teh Narrative
WTH?!? Passed by Lou Dobbs’ coverage of the Ft Hood incident last nite. Heard General Honore, among others, holding forth on the extreme stress of the military fighting on two fronts while the rest of the nation is not at war.
His point is apt—but not relevant in the way it was presented to the Ft Hood story. The few facts that had emerged at that point demonstrated that.
The way it is relevant is all over the nooz.
So far, what is emerging is a portrait of a disgruntled soldier. Why he was disgruntled is the point.
He identified himself as Palestinian, though he was born in VA.
He took extra weapons training, didn’t fit in, “was mortified by the idea of being deployed” in Iraq and couldn’t handle being called camel jockey by his fellows.
There is more—piles more—some of which will turn out to be bogus an some which needs more investigation, but the early picture is pretty clear.
But the MSM won’t touch it. Watch ‘em twist and turn to day to avoid even mentioning the shooter’s actual motivations, flinging blame hither and yon.
Gen. Honore is right; this nation is not at war with those who make war against us.
Soldiers ... reported that the gunman shouted “Allahu Akbar!” as he fired on his fellow soldiers, the base commander said Friday.
Yep. Just “workplace violence.”
That and a touch of “Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder.”
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people noticed
President Obama didn’t wait long after Tuesday’s devastating elections to give critics another reason to question his leadership, but this time the subject matter was more grim than a pair of governorships.
After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective.
But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a “shout-out” to “Dr. Joe Medicine Crow—that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.” Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him?
Anyone at home aware of the major news story of the previous hours had to have been stunned. An incident like this requires a scrapping of the early light banter. The president should apologize for the tone of his remarks, explain what has happened, express sympathy for those slain and appeal for calm and patience until all the facts are in. That’s the least that should occur.
Indeed, an argument could be made that Obama should have canceled the Indian event, out of respect for people having been murdered at an Army post a few hours before. That would have prevented any sort of jarring emotional switch at the event.
Did the president’s team not realize what sort of image they were presenting to the country at this moment? The disconnect between what Americans at home knew had been going on—and the initial words coming out of their president’s mouth was jolting, if not disturbing.
An Army psychiatrist who opened fire at Fort Hood, Texas, killing 12 people and wounding 31 others, was shot but captured alive, military officials said late Thursday.
The gunman, identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, was wounded at the scene but was captured alive and was in stable condition, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, commanding general of the Army’s III Corps, said at a press conference late Thursday.
Eleven of the victims died at the scene, military officials said. A 12th died later at a hospital, NBC station KCEN-TV of Waco reported. Cone said that most of those who were shot were military but two were civilians.
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rckle wrote on 11/05/2009 08:33:54 PM:Nobody know what atrocities this man heard about from the ones who’d gone before him. They might have pushed the most sane of all over the edge. It was a horrific act, yet we don’t as of yet know the reason why.
Nobody here is an expert on an individual that they’d not even heard of until a few hours ago.
I’ll withhold judgement until I know more.
From a HotAir update:
...he talked about his deployment and said he didn’t want to kill other Muslims…
I asked our KisP roving reporter ThomasM on the scene of today’s DC Tea Party protest to pick out some photos for us that he thought best represented the day…
Jeri Thompson,
Jeri Thompson,
and Jeri Thompson
